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London: Panopticon Cracks

Londoners are seen on the city's vast amalgam of surveillance cameras an average of 300 times a day. Which means that the terrorists behind yesterday's bombings almost certainly knew they'd be caught on tape -- and went ahead with their attacks anyway.

cctv13.jpgBefore Britain began installing its network of 4.2 million spycams, before spycams were even invented, backers of surveillance were arguing that people are less likely to do horrible things when they know they're being watched. That's the reason Jeremy Bentham in 1791 proposed in 1787 a "Panopticon" -- a jail in which the warden could always see what his prisoners were doing. It's the reason Chicago is linking together more than two thousand cameras into a single surveillance network.

But whether bad guys actually act differently under watch is debatable. After dozens of studies of England’s Close Circuit Television spycam system, there is "very little substantive research evidence to suggest that CCTV works," the U.K.’s National Association for the Care and Resettlement of Offenders reports.

In America, some cities have reported short-term crime drops after the cameras have been installed. But English studies suggest that these dips are temporary, at best. Why? My guess is that crooks get used to the spycams -- and, after a while, realize that no one's watching, at least in real time. There are just too many cameras to keep track of. And the average monitor jockey can only watch six to eight video feeds, for about twenty minutes, before he starts to lose focus. It makes for an awfully weak deterrent.

Now, there's certainly some forensic value to having all those electronic eyes installed. As the AP, among many others, have noted, "the British capital's ubiquitous closed-circuit TV cameras may hold the key to determine who was behind Thursday's series of terrorist strikes." But as a preventive measure, the 7/7 attacks have shown the spycams to be flimsy, at best.

If there's a hope for surveillance-as-deterrent, it may lie in places like Chicago. Instead of forcing squads of monitor jockeys to make sense of confusing, overlapping video feeds, the city is installing video understanding algorithms into its spycam network. Come too close to a restricted government building, leave a package on an El platform, or even hang out for too long on a ghetto street corner and - smile! - you're on Criminal Camera.

But it's going to take years for the software to get installed. And no one's really sure whether it can work on a massive, city-wide scale. For now, we're stuck with the same old systems -- and the same old results.

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Our stupid little town - always wanting to be like the big boys - shelled out a whopping $2 million for cams on our two highways so they could supposedly assist in traffic flow.
The commute here from anywhere is less then 15 minutes on a bad day.
They could have done this for free by asking people to call in with road conditions. People love doing that.

Posted by: dokken at October 21, 2009 1:20 PM


I hate privacy too, let's put cameras in TV's and computer monitors. That way, if someone is looking at kiddie porn, you will see the excitement in their face and know to arrest them.

They could program an algorithem that tells the computer when you are late for work. Just think, if the cameras are hooked into the employee database the cameras could automatically fire people, which would save the management the trouble of doing it and save the company millions in wasted man hours. They could even get rid of management. Let the cameras and databases take charge of industry.

The algorithem could be programmed to look for muslims and give them special careful scrutiny. Imagine, the camera sees a muslim go to home depot. It could remember what he purchased and how much of it. If this same muslim has purchases lenghts of pipe with end caps and fertilizer, the camera could call 9/11 automatically and he could be arrested.

Think of how well the courts would work! You wouldn't need warrants anymore because if you have video of someone's life from birth to death, I'm sure there is bound to be something in there that could be construed as probable cause.

Now, if only these cameras were equipped with microphones, then you could truly have a panopticon. Imagine that, total surveillence all the time, all under the watchful eyes of a machine. Still think the matrix is just a fantasy?

Posted by: JiggleBilly at January 25, 2006 10:26 AM


Byron, and Very Concerned Guy -- this is just us people. I don't want to burst any bubbles but I don't think anyone here is privy to classified information nor, with all due respect, is thinking of anything the AQ boys haven't thought of.

Posted by: Ronald Coleman at July 18, 2005 7:51 PM


It is foolish and short-sighted to expect the cameras to deter terrorism, just as it is unrealistic to expect to be able to prevent all terrorist acts.

In my opinion, the cameras have shown their worth by positively identifying the perpetrators, proving to their friends, family and the world at large that these were "Jihadists" and Muslim extremists, not Mossad, CIA, IRA, ETA, anyone but... et al. The Moslim world can't hide behind the lies and conspiracy theories this time, and I think the wake-up call will be effective.

Islamic terrorism will end when it becomes a universally unacceptable thing for fervent believers to contemplate. That development should have a ripple effect on the other terrorist belief systems of our time.

Posted by: Slammin Sammy at July 17, 2005 8:53 AM


We need a Surveillance enhanced decoy regonition system. For instance a human purposely avoiding a camera will look away in another direction, this is were the actual camera should be to get a clear shot. Also when this happens it registers them as a possible. If they attempt to avoid all the cameras, they are paranoid and up to something? Thus creating an anomaly and registering as a possible. Perhaps a thought?

What good are cameras, except for hindsight, it did not stop them. It may prevent a future attack, but there are more bad guys even if we catch a few assistants to this event. Meanwhile playing the video tapes on TV only gives one the impression that they cannot prevent attacks and emboldens those who wish us ill in the future. Video feed without action is simply lots of data collection for no reason. If you are not going to use the data in real time to prevent events, why bother? Now someone will debate me here because they sell CCTV systems and indeed they are protecting thier interests, fine. But the truth is without advanced enhanced technologies cameras alone will not prevent attacks. The costs to Mass Transit for elevated security and labor, systems and installation is prohibitive as Mass transit systems operate on economies of scale and when you increase costs, ridership goes down and the thing does not work. I.e. Toll Ways in the US, EuroTunnel, BART in SF, MetroRail in LA, Amtrak, I can go on; email if interested in complete study.

Posted by: Lance Winslow at July 15, 2005 12:20 PM


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